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Plumbers & electricians in Penge

Penge was built in one Victorian rush and modernised in another one eighty years later, and it is the second rush that still turns up behind the fireplaces.

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Covering Penge, Anerley and Crystal Palace.

The district sits in the dip below Crystal Palace, with Anerley Road and the High Street running through it and the park on the ridge above. Penge and Anerley grew together once the railways came through, and what got built was street after street of terraces and modest semis for people commuting into London. The Alexandra Cottages, put up in pairs with a garden front and back in the late eighteen sixties, are the tidiest example, but the pattern repeats across most of SE20.

None of those houses were built with central heating. Every room that mattered had a fireplace, every fireplace had a flue, and the chimney breasts are structural rather than decorative. So when gas central heating arrived in the sixties and seventies, the cheapest way to get a boiler into a solid old terrace was to use a hole that already existed.

Most of the work here is second or third generation as a result, from pipework threaded through houses that never planned for it to the tired underground runs behind a blocked drain in Penge.

The back boiler still sitting in the chimney breast

A back boiler is a gas heat exchanger built into the opening of a chimney breast, hidden behind what looks like an ordinary gas fire. The Baxi Bermuda was the common one, and huge numbers went into houses like these between the mid sixties and the late eighties. You usually recognise one by absence: nothing on the kitchen wall, nothing in the airing cupboard, nothing in the loft, and yet there is a cylinder upstairs, a tank above it, a programmer screwed to a wall somewhere awkward, and a gas fire downstairs that heats the whole house. The brick chimney is doing the job of the flue.

They are at the end of their lives now, on age alone. The youngest are close to forty and the oldest are past sixty, they have not been made for years, and new ones stopped going in once the efficiency rules changed. That is what makes boiler repair in Penge on one of these different from a repair on a modern combi. The fault is usually ordinary, a gas valve or a thermocouple, but the part is not in the van and might not be in the country. The symptoms are familiar: the fire lights while the radiators stay cool, or hot water only appears an hour after the fire goes on.

Replacing one is a bigger job than swapping a boiler on a wall, and it helps to know that before anyone quotes. The new appliance does not normally go where the old one was, because a brick chimney is not a flue for a condensing boiler. It goes on an outside wall, with a sealed flue and a condensate drain run to somewhere it can discharge. The old opening gets cleared and made good, and the chimney capped and vented so an unused flue does not sit damp. The gain is space, because the cylinder and the loft tank become redundant, which hands back an airing cupboard and a good part of the loft.

What SE20 covers

  • Penge
  • Anerley
  • Crystal Palace

Post town London. If your postcode begins SE20, you are inside the patch.

SE20: questions we actually get asked

Do you cover Anerley and Crystal Palace as well as Penge?

Yes. SE20 takes in Penge and Anerley, and the Crystal Palace boundary runs along the top of the hill where SE20 meets SE19. We also cross into SE26 towards Sydenham, SE25 towards South Norwood and BR3 towards Beckenham. An emergency plumber in Penge or one street over the district line is the same van and the same number.

Can the new boiler go where the back boiler was?

Sometimes, but usually it should not. There are boilers made to sit in a fireplace opening, and they occasionally suit a house with no sensible alternative wall. Most of the time it is neater to move it to an outside wall, because a condensing boiler needs a sealed flue and a condensate drain, and getting both out of a chimney breast mid terrace is more work than it is worth.

What happens to the cylinder and the tank in the loft?

On a combi they come out, which frees the airing cupboard and most of the loft, and that is often what makes a new bathroom or shower room possible in a house with no spare room for one. It is not automatic though. A house with two bathrooms and a modest incoming main can be better off keeping stored hot water in a pressurised cylinder.

Is there electrical work involved in taking a back boiler out?

Nearly always some. The old heating controls tend to be a nineteen seventies programmer and a spur or two, sometimes on cable well past its best, and new controls need a proper fused supply with the earthing and bonding checked. We do the electrical side ourselves, so an electrician in Penge is not a separate appointment, and an EV charger installation gets looked at the same way.

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